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Michael Moore says sorry, Donald Trump is going to win

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The long-time leading firebrand of left wing politics in America, Michael Moore, has made it clear who he thinks will win the upcoming American Presidential election campaign.

Appearing on a special online broadcast episode of Real Time with Bill Maher, the director of incendiary documentaries such as Bowling for Columbine and Fahrenheit 9/11 has predicted Donald Trump will become the next leader of the free world.

“I think Trump is going to win. I’m sorry,” the Oscar-winning filmmaker said, prompting boos from the audience. He elaborated on his reasoning, discussing four states.

“I lived in Michigan, and let me tell you. It’s gonna be the Brexit strategy. The middle of England is Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Mitt Romney lost by 64 electoral votes,” Moore said.

“The total number of electoral votes in those states in the rust belt, 64. All he has to do is win those four states. I was there during the primary, he went down and said they moved this factory down to Mexico, I’m putting a tariff on the cars, and it was music to peoples’ ears.”

“More people in the primary in Michigan voted Republican than Democrat this year. That should be a disturbing thing for everyone.”

If Moore is right, the Donald Trump Show is just getting started.

18 responses to “Michael Moore says sorry, Donald Trump is going to win

  1. In a way the USA needs Trump to bring things to a head! It’s going to be UGLY!! But then to us the USA always looks UGLY!!

  2. I’ve been saying that Trump can’t win. But I’ve always had a nagging doubt. I do believe that he can’t win on the aggregate vote but what Moore is saying is probably what underpins my doubt, i.e the electoral college system. The fact is though that this type of tea party populism hasn’t got the GOP over the line. If we assume it emerged during the GW Bush era it hasn’t worked for maybe 3 elections.

  3. Perhaps it will bring the end of the American Empire a little quicker. It has been heading in that direction for some time with its significant debt.

  4. What we just experienced in our own recent exercise of democratic determinism is about to be reimagined by the USA I fear.
    In recent times the public’s lack of faith in their political masters has come to something of a head globally and unusual results in polls look like becoming the norm rather than the exception.
    Unfortunately we fail repeatedly to learn from recent historical precedent, and thus, the social dynamics of the 30’s are beginning to reappear in our times.
    Pedagoguery ala Trump is only one symptom though it is indeed a lot more significant in scope and context than our recent electoral hissy fit.
    Interesting times indeed!

  5. It says a lot about our complete loss of the concept of solidarity and collectivism that these misguided people are happy for the renewal to come about through such a destructive, narcissistic trickster.

    The rot and the decay and the manipulation needs to be exposed before we can move on but what a shame that they’re choosing to take this particular version of doing it.

  6. Yes, the political establishment (including the “left wing” element in the commentariat) ignores the issues which directly affect people’s lives and then is shocked and horrified when they gravitate to the right wing populists who are the only ones addressing them, however unconvincingly and inaccurately. Worse still the enlightened then take this choice as evidence of the demos’ failure to understand and conclude that democracy is a bad idea: only nice people like them should be allowed to vote.

  7. Ohio, Pennsylvania maybe, but Michigan, Wisconsin are very unlikely going to go to Trump, getting thumped in polling in those states at the moment.

    I think Moore is just trying to make sure no one in complacent about beating Trump

  8. In Australia less than three years ago , the right wing neo con “Liberals’ ” won federal parliament through a campaign of half truths, fear, smear, distortion, exaggeration and deceit. The Brexit campaigners recently won using the same tactics. I was there throughout both campaigns and the Trump campaign is a carbon copy. Fasten your seat belts everyone and sping clean any of those nuclear bunkers you may have left over from the sixties – I fear Michael is right.

  9. There is something gruesomely fascinating with wondering what will happen if Trump wins. It’s the same ghoulish instinct which attracts people to gather around car crashes.
    Of course politics in democratic societies has become too elitist and too distanced from the vast majority of voters, but is it enough to attribute all the blame to this for Brexit and Trump?
    There seems to be something at play here which is bigger than just the protest vote of globalism’s losers. Each of the true believers of Brexit and Trump are playing with very strong archetypal concepts all of which transcend rational systems and processes based analysis. And Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage and Donald Trump obviously understand this and are using it to their advantage.
    Maybe it really is going to get worse before it gets better and following generations will ask themselves how could it have happened and declare “Never again” just as Germany has declared “nie wieder” these last seventy years.

  10. There are many things in the US that are bad, Inequality, Religious Zealotry, a crap health system and the egregious Millennium Act and last but certainly not least the parasites of Wall Street.

    But so much is so good. Now some of these are embodied by people who are dead, but lets not quibble.

    Jackson Pollock, Eisenhower, Roosevelt, Lincoln, Obama (Damn him), NASA, James Hanson, Robert Sapolsky, Gore Vidal and of course the Universities. There are a lot of very nice Americans. The nice ones outnumber the nasty ones by a considerable extent. I met a couple from New Jersey, whose son in law had the rather dubious opportunity of fighting in Afghanistan. Cort, the male member of the couple was surprised at how friendly an Australian such as me was. He had heard we dislikes Americans. I assured him this was not true. The US saved us from the Japanese in World War II. I do NOT joke. The British left us for dead. What the American Soldiers, Airman and Navy did for us was a considerable sacrifice. Granted their was a significant quantum of self interest involved, but they were there for us when others were not.

    We now have China to contend with. A particularly nasty Communist Dictatorship which kills it’s recalcitrant students with tanks. Donald Trump the genius property developer and sociopath needs to think a lot more about this Lot than a few poor Mexican’s and Muslims who haven’t got two dimes to rub together. This mob has a long memory and a lot of scores to settle with about every country in the region. Japan (they of course have form on this), Vietnam, Cambodia, South Korea et al .

    Of course Mexicans and Arabs are a lot less complicated than the Chinese: No Nukes, No Money and No leadership. But surely a genius such as Donald will have worked all this out. A cynical person would possibly suggest he is simply telling the conservatives what they want to hear, but I’m sure a man of his standing and ambition would have a far greater understanding of the situation and would not resort to populist dogma to support his election.

    RJG Toongabbie

  11. Trump may defy the polls and pundits and win. But what nobody can predict, including Trump himself, is what he will actually do if he makes it. His policies are vague to say the least, and several are unachievable. In his nomination acceptance speech for example, he says he’s going to stop crime. For every policy position he’s taken now, he’s taken a different or contradictory one in the past.

    It would be more interesting to watch than a Clinton presidency.

    1. Vague policies is not surprising in this globe at this time. People in oz believe a surplus budget even if it includes privatising down to the stationary.

      The peak of civilisation is not without its complexity, I know not the future but I can see some species level decisions will be made in Coming moons


  12. I really find it hard to believe that a majority of Americans will be that stupid. Then again, I find it hard to believe that a majority of Republicans are as stupid as they’ve just shown themselves to be.

    1. Better at avoiding paying federal income tax, better at insulting people, better at groping people (allegedly, he’s suing of course), better at demonizing an entire religion, better at denying the existence of climate change. I could go on….it’s exhausting. HRC IS BETTER by comparison by ANY measure.

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